Canon Discussion Post: The Noble Bachelor
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sherlock60It's time for some canon discussion, don't you think? How did you find The Noble Bachelor? As always, I've written up a few of my own random thoughts and comments, which are behind the jump. Add your own in the comments!
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- According to Baring-Gould's chronology, Watson is married three times. He alludes to his first wife here, who is, according to this theory, "a girl from San Francisco he had met while practicing medicine there, during the period when he was called to America to attend his ailing brother." This is the most uncomfortable difficulty in this timeline. Personally, I much prefer to imagine Watson had only one wife: Mary Morstan. I favor the idea that Watson has deliberately confused the timeline (and the number of his marriages) to better disguise Holmes' cases and protect his clients. Any thoughts here?
- We don't get to see Holmes' case with the King of Scandinavia as his client, but it does lead to a great moment bringing the pompous Lord St. Simon back down to size. "No, I am descending."
- Speaking of Lord St. Simon, ugh, he is repellent. I had to check last round's notes to see if I hated him this much the last time I read this story. Turns out I did. It's surprising Hatty seemed willing to marry him, being such a free, impetuous spirit herself and he being so snooty, self-important, and entitled. Robert has legitimate reason to feel upset and slighted, but I can't say I feel sorry for him.
- I'm still waiting for Holmes' imagined joint English-American worldwide country.
Comment away, and join us next week for The Second Stain along with its Granada adaptation!
Note: Granada discussion is available in the Granada discussion post. Thanks!
- According to Baring-Gould's chronology, Watson is married three times. He alludes to his first wife here, who is, according to this theory, "a girl from San Francisco he had met while practicing medicine there, during the period when he was called to America to attend his ailing brother." This is the most uncomfortable difficulty in this timeline. Personally, I much prefer to imagine Watson had only one wife: Mary Morstan. I favor the idea that Watson has deliberately confused the timeline (and the number of his marriages) to better disguise Holmes' cases and protect his clients. Any thoughts here?
- We don't get to see Holmes' case with the King of Scandinavia as his client, but it does lead to a great moment bringing the pompous Lord St. Simon back down to size. "No, I am descending."
- Speaking of Lord St. Simon, ugh, he is repellent. I had to check last round's notes to see if I hated him this much the last time I read this story. Turns out I did. It's surprising Hatty seemed willing to marry him, being such a free, impetuous spirit herself and he being so snooty, self-important, and entitled. Robert has legitimate reason to feel upset and slighted, but I can't say I feel sorry for him.
- I'm still waiting for Holmes' imagined joint English-American worldwide country.
Comment away, and join us next week for The Second Stain along with its Granada adaptation!
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Date: 2012-09-23 08:46 am (UTC)"No, I am descending."
That's one of those moments one's gotta love one's Holmes for. >D
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Date: 2012-09-23 09:52 am (UTC)By the same token I see the King of Scandanavia as being the King of Bohemia but under a pseuodonym to protect the client's name.
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Date: 2012-09-23 11:52 am (UTC)So many narrative problems in this tale. I really didn't enjoy it. Then I listened to it audio hoping to pick up some nuance in it and I felt the same way. Then I read the annotations and read that ACD agreed with me.
Hah.
Had Watson followed him out on his rounds it would have been a little something of interest but sitting around the flat and having the crime solved gave very little intrigue.
Although, I was amused at Lestrade going all nautical to dredge a man made lake.
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Date: 2012-09-23 08:05 pm (UTC)That fic is begging to be written. You should do it!
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Date: 2012-09-24 12:14 am (UTC)I think I'm going to go with it being a case of one of Holmes's trolling moments. He says it with a straight face, Mr. Moulton has a moment of pure incredulous WTFuckery, and Watson is trying not to crack up in the background because he knows Holmes too well.
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Date: 2012-09-24 06:46 am (UTC)And I am more comfortable with one Mrs Watson. He seemed busy enough without two more!
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Date: 2012-09-24 07:05 am (UTC)Also, hello! Long time lurker - been reading for quite a while, loving the fics, trying to summon the courage to write one myself. In the meantime - I love reading everybody's take on these!
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Date: 2012-09-30 05:58 am (UTC)I'm the mod here, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask. You should definitely try your hand at a 60. Your comment is longer than that! :) We're very relaxed and very flexible here, and our group is always kind and welcoming. Give it a try if the week's story strikes you, and thanks again for just hanging around, even if you don't. It's always lovely to hear from a reader!
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