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Welcome once again to my poetry page!

I hope each week you will read Dr. Watson’s delightful narrative and then be inspired to write a poem related to it in some way. All forms of poetry are permitted, and further down the page there is a selection you might like to consider using over the coming weeks.

This week my featured form is the mat̲h̲nawī.

Wikipedia, gives this definition:

Masnavi, or mat̲h̲nawī, is the name of a poem written in rhyming couplets, or more specifically, "a poem based on independent, internally rhyming lines". Most mat̲h̲nawī follow a meter of eleven, or occasionally ten, syllables, but have no limit in their length. The mat̲h̲nawī consists of an indefinite number of couplets, with the rhyme scheme aa/bb/cc.

Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Turkish mat̲h̲nawī are strongly driven by their plot, and are usually categorized into three genres—mutaḳārib (heroic), ramal (religio/didactic), and hazadj (romantic). Some mat̲h̲nawī were written with an understanding that the audience would appreciate the importance of the subject of the poem, but some were also written purely for entertainment purposes.




Here is my example poem (which admittedly does not have much plot to it):


They drive me insane but I can always expect
Mr. Holmes and the Doctor to give me respect.

At first an employer and a wage earner.
Now we’re best chums: Mesdames Hudson and Turner.

What need have I of power, palaces and riches,
Laughing with the Knitting Circle over dropped stitches?

Parents die, siblings die, a happy marriage ends.
But a woman ought never to be without friends.




As always, this is simply something to consider for the future. Any form of poetry is welcome this week—and every week! Here are a few suggestions for you:

221B verselet, abecedarian poetry, acrostic poetry, alexandrine, beeswing, blackout poetry, blues stanza, bref double, call and response, chastushka, cinquain, circular poetry, clerihew, colour poems, concrete poetry, Cornish verse, curtal sonnet, diamante, doggerel, double dactyl, ekphrasis, elegiac couplet, englyn, epigram, epulaeryu, Etheree, fable, found poetry, ghazal, haiku, Italian sonnet, kennings poem, lanturne, limerick, lyric poetry, mat̲h̲nawī, palindrome poetry, pantoum, poem cycle, quintilla, renga, riddle, rime couée, Schüttelreim, sedoka, septet, sestina, sonnet, tanka, tercet, terza rima, tongue twister poetry, triolet, tyburn, villanelle


Please leave all your poems inspired by The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax in the comments on this post. I look forward to seeing them!


Warm regards,

Mrs. Hudson

Re: A Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 02:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Aw, languid laces, too relaxed to do their work properly :)

Re: A Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 02:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
No comment other than: you are slaying me!

Re: A Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 07:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
I can't tell if she's doing it on purpose or it just comes naturally :)

RE: A Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 03:10 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Pleased his clothing was de-stressed by the experience, too:-)
Edited Date: 2015-12-06 03:10 pm (UTC)

Re: A Turkish mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 04:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurose8.livejournal.com
A nice litttle Turkish bath of a poem, very well laced up at the end.
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Oh wow. That's epic! The whole story. Nicely done.
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Thank you very much:-)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
I'm particularly taken with the moral of the tale; one should definitely take heed from the sad story of Lady Frances Carfax.
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Thank you...important lesson here:-)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
The short last line is used in Sapphic verse:-)
And thank you very much:-)

An accidental almost mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 01:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Your coat is splattered on one side
This tells me you have shared your ride

Your boots are tied a different way
I think I know how you spent your day

I find myself feeling rather old
And no longer enjoy a wash in the cold

And generally I think it much more fun
To be at baths where I’m not the only one

Re: An accidental almost mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 03:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
I cannot, I cannot, what are you doing? BWAH!

Re: An accidental almost mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Just adding to the fun ;)

Re: An accidental almost mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
I was amused reading your poetry description and thinking "oh, that's what I've written."

Re: An accidental almost mat̲h̲nawī

Date: 2015-12-06 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Simply, so even Holmes understands.
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Why lost, Sir Arthur, a lady of means, driftin’?
Wake up, Sir Arthur, the times they be shiftin’
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
I completely see your point and thinks it's valid. I hadn't though of it like that. But you're right, you'd think with her traveling she'd been a little more wary of the Reverend & co.

But we don't really know a whole lot about Lady Carfax since we don't hear her own voice (which in and of itself is suggestive), but I think ACD (through Holmes) was laying it on a bit thick, painting a whole subset of the population with the same brush in the paragraph about the 'most dangerous class of people.' It seemed to me to be something a man would say about a woman who isn't legally/financially tied (father/brother/husband--even a dead one) to another man.
From: [identity profile] laurose8.livejournal.com
Well put! I think Lady Frances would thank you for giving her those lines to say.

Date: 2015-12-06 04:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laurose8.livejournal.com
I think this excellent sample has a most excellent plot. Thank you.

The poetry of Mrs H

Date: 2015-12-06 04:23 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Nicely done Mrs H...and having two long pointy needles at hand may have other benefits:-)

Limerick

Date: 2015-12-06 04:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
A lady is lost in Lausanne;
Two rogues pawned her jewels and ran.
A burglar and ruffian
Find double-bedded coffin –
And now Green will do what he can.

Re: Limerick

Date: 2015-12-06 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
Thanks. The whole story is rather horrible - it deals with one of the greatest dreads of Victorians.

Re: Limerick

Date: 2015-12-06 07:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
I thought of you this week because there's a post going around tumblrs about limerick summaries of great poems. I thought, I know someone who could do that, who does that, every Sunday! Well done. Bonus: I now know how to pronounce Lausanne.

Re: Limerick

Date: 2015-12-07 04:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
I've seen those poems redone in limerick form, too.

I used Google to hear how Lausanne is supposed to sound, so I could rhyme it correctly.

RE: Limerick

Date: 2015-12-06 10:18 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Clever rhyming:-)

Re: Limerick

Date: 2015-12-07 04:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
Thanks. (Of course first I had to find out how to pronounce "Lausanne" so I could do the limerick correctly...)

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