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Welcome once again to my poetry page!

I hope each week you will read Dr. Watson’s delightful narrative and then go on to write a poem related to it in some way. All forms of poetry are permitted, and further down the page there is a selection you might like to consider using over the coming weeks.

And here, courtesy of my housemaid Rachel, is this week’s suggested poem to read—a suggestion inspired by the themes and subjects in this week's story. Hopefully you will enjoy the poem, and perhaps it may give you some ideas for a poem of your own or allow you to look at Dr. Watson's story in a new way.



De Profundis

By Christina Rossetti



Note from Rachel: After her horrifying ordeal, Lady Frances Carfax will surely have a long and difficult recovery. For a time she may feel a stranger in this living world, but I believe her fortitude and noble spirit will bring her one day to true healing.



Thank you so much to Rachel. And here is also a new poetry form to try: the débat.


Poetry Magnum Opus gives this definition:

Débat , French for debate, is a poetic dialogue between 2 sides of an argument… The argument usually is over moralistic themes… It is the descendant of the 11th century Partimen, a favorite of the Occitan troubadours, verse in which one troubadour would pose a dilemma in the form of a question, then he and another would debate the answer in verse.

Since the Débat is a genre of poetry rather than a verse form, the frame or structure of the poem is at the discretion of the poet. When the argument or debate is between opposing sides who care for one another, such as lovers or parent and child, the verse is called an Eclogue Débat.



Here is my example:

Mrs. Hudson:

A single lady has to live,
But must it be through rooms to hire?
Violins, criminals, experiments
And of course the daily curtain fire.


Bank Account:

A single lady has to live
And though you have to face the rigours,
Mr. Holmes’s rent is a princely one.
Just cast your eye over my four figures!


Mrs. Hudson:

Financial security is not everything.
Something really has to give.
Come on, money—I’m taking you on holiday.
A single lady has to live!




But you do not have to use this form. Any form of poetry is welcome this week—and every week! Here are a few suggestions for you:

221B verselet, abecedarian poetry, acrostic poetry, alexandrine, ballad, barzelletta, beeswing, blackout poetry, blitz poem, blues stanza, bref double, Burns stanza, call and response, chastushka, cinquain, circular poetry, clerihew, colour poems, compound word verse, concrete poetry, Cornish verse, curtal sonnet, débat, décima, diamante, doggerel, double dactyl, echo verse, ekphrasis, elegiac couplet, elegiac stanza, elfje, englyn, epigram, epistle, epitaph, epulaeryu, Etheree, fable, Fib, florette, found poetry, free verse, ghazal, haiku, hay(na)ku, In Memoriam stanza, Italian sonnet, jueju, kennings poem, lanturne, lies, limerick, line messaging, list poem, lyric poetry, mathnawī, micropoetry, mini-monoverse, musette, nonsense verse, palindrome poetry, pantoum, Parallelismus Membrorum, poem cycle, quatern, quintilla, renga, rhyming alliterisen, riddle, rime couée, rispetto, Schüttelreim, sedoka, septet, sestina, shadorma, sonnet, stream of consciousness, tanka, tercet, terza rima, tongue twister poetry, triangular triplet, triolet, Tyburn, villanelle


Please leave all your poems inspired by The Disappearance of Lady Frances Carfax in the comments on this post. I look forward to seeing them!


Warm regards,

Mrs. Hudson

Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 07:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
The Honourable Phillip Green
Not as honourable as he would seem
Stalks an unwilling woman across half the world
And, left in his clutches, her fate is unfurled

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 09:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Hardly a wise guardian to choose.

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
Yeah - his non-understanding of over half the human population is Holmes' biggest blind spot.

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 11:08 am (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Yuk, yuk, Creepy McCreeperson! I guess he finally Wore Her Down.

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
Then he turned his back on her...Mm. Brains.

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
As your tale hopes. Your lips to Doyle's ears.

RE: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 07:21 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Yes...misguided at best

Re: Clerihew

Date: 2017-05-28 11:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
That's the kindest face I can put on his behavior.

Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
H: Tell me, Watson, who it was
You travelled with by cab?
W: Oh really, Holmes, you must know
So why not have a stab
H: And who was it tied such a bow
As you are sporting on your lace?
W:To ask such questions really now
It’s truly not your place
H: And why must you go for Turkish
When an English bath will do?
W:That question I will answer now
‘Tis to escape from you

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 11:10 am (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Ha! Yes, Holmes I am willing to pay for the benefit of RELAXING!

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Most certainly!

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 01:24 pm (UTC)

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gardnerhill.livejournal.com
Those two are SO married.

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 07:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
You'd think so, wouldn't you.

RE: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 07:21 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
It's an interesting relationship:-p

Re: Débat

Date: 2017-05-28 07:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
It certainly has its moments ;)
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Re: A Débat: Last Straw

Date: 2017-05-28 11:10 am (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Nicely done. Yes, Holmes has an answer for everything! But then, he can talk to himself.

RE: Re: A Débat: Last Straw

Date: 2017-05-28 07:22 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Oh yes:-)
Thank you:-)

Re: A Débat: Last Straw

Date: 2017-05-28 11:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Watson makes perfect sense here - leave Holmes and his ego to keep each other company.

RE: Re: A Débat: Last Straw

Date: 2017-05-28 07:22 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Yep, time for a break.

RE: Re: A Débat: Last Straw

Date: 2017-05-28 07:23 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
I am sure they will:-)

Mrs. Hudson's poem

Date: 2017-05-28 02:22 pm (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Running away from Holmes seems to be the theme.

RE: Mrs. Hudson's poem

Date: 2017-05-28 07:24 pm (UTC)
debriswoman: (cat and mouse)
From: [personal profile] debriswoman
Certainly seems worth a try:-)

Debat

Date: 2017-05-30 04:27 pm (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Holmes:

But why eschew the homemade bath,
invigorating, cheap, beneath stairs?
Explain, pray tell, the choice to swap
an English wash for Turkish wares.

Watson:

The Turkish bath relaxes, calms.
an oasis from worldly cares,
like reenactments of the fates
of sunken barques that flood the stairs!

What’s more I feel the years do wear
on joints and mind fatigued with frets
I seek to rid my system of
experiments (singed curtain debts)!

Holmes:

If change is what your heart desires
I’ve just the thing, my Watson dear.
How ‘bout a Continental trip,
but get your boots well-laced right here?

Re: Debat

Date: 2017-05-30 05:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thesmallhobbit.livejournal.com
Because obviously a Continental trip organised by Holmes will be completely relaxing without any stress or difficult outcome.

Re: Debat

Date: 2017-05-30 06:00 pm (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Okapi)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
You make an excellent point. Holmes promises a change & traveling in princely fashion, he doesn't say anything about relaxation or Watson's rhuematism for that matter!

Re: Debat

Date: 2017-05-31 10:45 am (UTC)
ext_1789368: okapi (Default)
From: [identity profile] okapi1895.livejournal.com
Thank you!

I may return to Holmes's reenactments. There are quite a few 'lost ships' in canon.

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